H11 Conversations of Jorge Barrenechea with the go-between "Marisol"

[Handwritten notes: «ORIGINAL» and «T14-21»]

Conversation with an intermediary of the Ummites, Sunday 25.10.87 from 0:30 until about 1:00

Coming back from dinner at California with the whole group, Rafael and Carmela, Carmen and I arrived home. We received a telephone call from a woman's voice which, two days later, identified itself under the pseudonym MARISOL.

Rafael and I each took a telephone.

She told us that our friends had indicated to her that we should put questions to them through her, which she would try to answer.

We asked her questions 1 to 17 from the previous pages. After about 30 minutes she said the communication was fading and was going to be cut off, as indeed happened.

She also told us (I believe) that our friends were listening to us from Argentina.

Some of the questions she considered herself able to answer on her own account, such as the one about the military coup, whose probability, according to her, had increased greatly since it was mentioned to us last spring.

Conversation with MARISOL on 25.10.87 from 14:45 [sic: 1:45] to 3:05

The two couples were discussing the previous conversation when this young lady called us again because, as she said, the UMMITES were transmitting to her (we do not know how) that we had been left wanting to ask other questions.
She insisted: is that indeed so?
We said yes, that we had indeed remarked that we should have asked whether they had monitoring in other homes besides R. Farriols's. Then we asked her the questions listed in the second series on the previous pages, from 18 to 36.

She said such outlandish things in that hour and twenty minutes that we gradually deflated as we talked with her, and in the end we did not know how to finish.

For example, to question 36 she answered that there was a woman more veteran than Indoo 33 daughter of Indoo 29, for she was a woman who had already lived in a UMMITE expedition in 1943, when there was a journey of a UMMITE craft by a phenomenon of APPORT.

To the question whether she too was an extraterrestrial, she answered perhaps. When I asked her to have them tell us the true History of CHRIST, she laughed. In short, a real disaster.

After hanging up, which we were longing to do, we began to fear it was a fraud, and the next day we had not the slightest doubt.

Unfortunately we came to attribute the supposed fraud to relatives of one of our brothers. May they forgive us.

4th [sic] conversation with MARISOL on 26.10.87

At about 4 in the afternoon on Monday 26.10.87 MARISOL called me again to tell me she was the one from UMMO and that our friends had asked her to tell us that the next day, around 5, she would call us again to answer our questions from the early hours of Sunday. I was so convinced she was an impostor that I was very curt. I said: "very well then, miss", and not even a thank you. She seemed to me so lacking in credibility that I did not even take in the time she said she would call us the next day. Luckily Carmenchu heard it on the other telephone.

Conversation with an UMMITE 26.10.87

A while after the preceding conversation, a genuine UMMITE calls.

UMMO: Jorge Barrenechea

J.B.: Yes. Ummo Ummo.

UMMO: You will receive answers to your questions tomorrow. Nothing more for today

J.B.: We thought the young lady who called me was an impostor.

UMMO: No. She is a friend of ours (or something like that) (I do not remember well).

The call took me completely by surprise. But it left me convinced that it came from a friend of ours from UMMO. I had no doubt.

List of questions transmitted in the conversation of 25.10.87

1) Is the association with CIRSA advisable for Juan Domínguez Montes?
2) Is it sensible for CRITESA to associate with Repsol and Resart? What do you mean by: ...choosing the line of investments well?
3) ?
4) Are the independence movements growing in the Basque Country and Catalonia?
5) Is the probability of a military coup increasing?
6) Will your collaboration and advice be real?
7) Have you recorded our conversations (meetings) in the basement and the house of R. Farriols?
8) Is it worth going into optical fibres?
9) Can Antonio Ribera publish it now, published with J.J. Benítez at Editorial Planeta?
10) José Mª Pons Rafols
11) Genome of man
12)
13) RF. Strengthen the Export department with an additional person. I have started the great project; is it sensible?
14) Genesis of ore deposits?
15)
16) Genesis of diamond
17) Quantification of loving

(in conversation 25.10.87 1:45 to 3:05)
18) Do you record what happens in the homes of J. Domínguez and J.B.A.?
19) RF: Is it advisable to let employees and workers know that the company model is not the ideal one?
20) We are going to invite Villagrasa, Mejorada and Borrás to some meeting. Can we tell Javier Muela everything?
21) Informing the BB well.
22) The date of Christ's birth is wrong in the historical synopsis - New Year's Eve.
23) Why is it a scientific truth: the word was made flesh?
24) Who is responsible for changing the orbit of the electrons of a Krypton atom?
25) Why did the death of Ummowoa and Christ have to be bloody?
26) According to her, in fact Christ did not die.
27) Has there been a woman-Christ?
28) Equal rights for women on Ummo, but they take part in a smaller proportion than in some countries of the Earth, Norway, USSR.
29) Is parapsychology a science? RF has done experiments; may he continue? can you help him in his trials? Telepathy, telekinesis, apport, radiesthesia, Uri Geller.
30)
31) IMII 28, son of IMMII 22, modern psychology.
31) Can you tell us the true History of Christ?
32) Has this young lady been linked with you since 1962?
33) Is there a present-day Christ in Humanity?
34) Has more than one envoy of Woa been born?
35) Why does Woa send his envoys at such different historical moments? Was there another Ummowoa before?
36) Is Indoo 33, daughter of Indoo 29, the most veteran of the UMMITE expedition members? and is it true that in 1943 a craft arrived on Earth as an apport?
37) What is evil? What must a soul do to be condemned to an eternal solipsism?
38) What is sleep?
39) What are dreams?
40) What different degrees of entropy do they generate: suicide - euthanasia - simple homicide - abortion - murder
41) Description, as didactic as possible, of the 10 dimensions of the pluricosmos.
42) Why do you not make yourselves known to someone in the group, or why do you to the typist or others?

4th conversation with MARISOL 27.10.87 (17:15 - 17:45)

From 16:00 Julián and I were ready for her to call us.

Indeed, at 17:15 Marisol calls and began to read us the answers.

She told us the answers had been dictated to her in a telephone call from Argentina, that she had recorded them on magnetic tape because she had been authorised to do so, but that after transcribing them she had destroyed the tape.

She told us that the UMMITES themselves had suggested she use the pseudonym MARISOL with us. She told us she was an intermediary and that her telephone was protected by the Ummites or something like that, but the point is that it was not tapped.

She dictated the following answers to me, except the first 4, which I took down quickly.

1) The meetings you are holding in the basement of your house may be excellent, but it is not necessary to hold them more than twice a month.

2) She told me they can only record if they are in Spain, but I must not have understood her, judging by what we have seen since.

3) The minimum number of people needed to inform the BB is 4.

4) To the question whether they can record us when we talk, she told me yes, provided they are located at that point. It is not clear.

5) We have not been pleased that your brother Antonio Ribera has published our reports through the Spanish publisher Plaza y Janés.

6) For Rafael Farriols: We see no serious difficulties preventing your link with Repsol Química.

7) For Rafael Farriols: The optical fibre manufacturing sub-sector presents brilliant prospects. Electronics on Oyagaa is dying. The next stages will be devoted to photonics.

8) It is impossible for us to give an opinion about your brother Antonio Roca. We lack fundamental information to advise you objectively. For now, strengthening export management is sufficient.

9) For your brother D.M.d.: We are gravely worried about your agreement with the Spanish firm.
We have recorded dialogues of Mr L., so we know that he will try to seize the stereochrome iconographic reproduction system, that is, the model of reproduction in four dimensions.
His plan centres on the laboratories trying to create in parallel a more perfected patent, monopolising the system. There is no honesty in his intentions. Adopt solutions demanding the provision of sufficient means and laboratory control if it is impossible for you to break the agreement, which would be very desirable for you.

10) At this moment the authorities of the Spanish State, through the CESID, know the intentions of the MC [military coup] and the chances of them materialising are lower.

11) The OEMMII of Earth not only can, but will manage in the medium term (less than 100 years), to know the sequence of nucleotides in the human genome and synthesise it in the laboratory.

12) The evolution of the Earth is polygenist. That must not be interpreted as an argument in favour of racism.

13) The love projected by the Oemmii of any point of the pluricosmos cannot be parameterised according to mathematical criteria.

14) At this moment there is no objection to your inviting E. Villagrasa, A. Borrás and F. Mejorada, but please refrain from giving these people the latest reports on the cosmos. This and only this among those received in the present stage. They may be read and discussed but not photocopied.

15) Do not read or discuss the letters alluding to the group of chosen ones, which are of a private nature, for they could feel hurt and left out.

16) The orbitals of the selected Krypton atoms in the brain are modified not directly by the imaginary mass but through a secondary effect of that imaginary mass in the physical framework of the brain.

After this series of answers, I confessed to Marisol that we had taken her for an impostor and asked her to forgive us. She told us she had already realised it the day before and had started crying when she perceived it.

She advised us to prepare successive questions, ordering them by priority.

I said it was strange that they were taking so long to collect the PARCEL (of questions etc.). She told me we had to get used (or something like that) to having a great deal of PATIENCE, a great deal of DISCRETION and A GREAT DEAL OF LOVE.

Meanwhile we had decided to address each other familiarly, and she said goodbye with a very warm hug.

That same day, 27 Oct., Juan Domínguez and Juan Aguirre happened to be at my house at the same time. The latter laid into J. Domínguez violently, accusing him of having appropriated something (the relief patent) that was not really his (or something similar). Juan Domínguez, to avoid arguments, left the house.
As a consequence of this clash, the next day, Wednesday 28 Oct., Marisol calls me.

5th conversation with MARISOL 28.10.87 14:20

She told me that during that same afternoon or the next morning, one of my friends would receive a letter addressed to me.

Indeed, José L. Jordán Peña received it at 21:00 in the evening, although he did not get home until 22:30